One of the things about Gunn post NFA is he has this really correct, high falutin legalese he can do, but plus all the street talk from his early days, plus the voice he develops in Angel which is yeah, less street, and maybe a little more Whedonesque. And then you mix 'em all together and I have no idea what you're left with!
But he's so great in this. I love Gunn. And I love your drawings of him!
Thanks! :-) One of the fun things about writing dialogue for these two is that they have such distinct voices, but in fic I am used to being able to get characterization across using description as well, and for the comic script it had to be all dialogue. (My panel descriptions are pretty minimalist--astridv is the artist, I am not good at visualization, so that just seemed logical. After this has been posted in its entirety you might be able to get me to post the script.)
You meant post-"Home," right? Because in the comicverse ("Old Friends," at least, appears to be post-NFA) he seems to have gone back to something more like street vernacular. And that's another thing, how as part of the underclass he has to learn to talk "up," even if the privileged members of society don't need to learn to talk "down," and that's a whole dynamic that Angel barely ever touched upon despite the series' fondness for wordplay. You basically only see it in, what, "Deep Down," when Fred is trying out terms like "word" and "dog" and an exasperated Gunn tells her that she (the skinny white Texan) can't talk like that. I imagine on the street she would get her butt kicked...
Oh. Well, I don't read the comics (Except for astridv's and by extension yours, obviously!) though I wish I did. Even if he does go back pretty much to street vernacular, it seems to me he still *has* this whole database of legal jargon and fancy talk. Seems to me if he couldn't think of a way to say something one way, he'd say it the other--but then I guess everyone would look at him kinda weird.
Well, I think you kinda see it in "Waiting In The Wings" (Angel: "Gunn, these guys are tight, and you're gonna be trippin' out." Gunn: "Don't be usin' my own phrases when we lost the trust.") But yeah, there seems like there's lots they could've done there that they didn't play with.
If one considers the IDW comicverse canon, Old Friends (which is definitely post-NFA; not all of them are) pretty much establishes that Gunn still has the braindump in his head.
Code-switching is pretty useful sometimes. Gunn's smart, and he's had enough experience learning to work it both ways. I can just see him breaking out into street slang in the boardroom for emphasis...
It's been a long time since I've seen "Waiting in the Wings" (okay, since I've seen any part of S3 other than "Lullaby" and the Connor-returned bits I had to clip for a vid), but you're right; I'd forgotten about that exchange. Entertaining but apropos how Angel can talk the talk, he just sounds like a dork doing so.
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One of the things about Gunn post NFA is he has this really correct, high falutin legalese he can do, but plus all the street talk from his early days, plus the voice he develops in Angel which is yeah, less street, and maybe a little more Whedonesque. And then you mix 'em all together and I have no idea what you're left with!
But he's so great in this. I love Gunn. And I love your drawings of him!
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You meant post-"Home," right? Because in the comicverse ("Old Friends," at least, appears to be post-NFA) he seems to have gone back to something more like street vernacular. And that's another thing, how as part of the underclass he has to learn to talk "up," even if the privileged members of society don't need to learn to talk "down," and that's a whole dynamic that Angel barely ever touched upon despite the series' fondness for wordplay. You basically only see it in, what, "Deep Down," when Fred is trying out terms like "word" and "dog" and an exasperated Gunn tells her that she (the skinny white Texan) can't talk like that. I imagine on the street she would get her butt kicked...
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Well, I think you kinda see it in "Waiting In The Wings" (Angel: "Gunn, these guys are tight, and you're gonna be trippin' out." Gunn: "Don't be usin' my own phrases when we lost the trust.") But yeah, there seems like there's lots they could've done there that they didn't play with.
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Code-switching is pretty useful sometimes. Gunn's smart, and he's had enough experience learning to work it both ways. I can just see him breaking out into street slang in the boardroom for emphasis...
It's been a long time since I've seen "Waiting in the Wings" (okay, since I've seen any part of S3 other than "Lullaby" and the Connor-returned bits I had to clip for a vid), but you're right; I'd forgotten about that exchange. Entertaining but apropos how Angel can talk the talk, he just sounds like a dork doing so.