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astridv ([personal profile] astridv) wrote2003-08-05 04:21 pm

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Saw Kita0610 and Monanotlisa do this... the fannish me in a nutshell:

I love Buffy, Angel, Connor, and Spike, because they're messed up and conflicted. And Cordelia, just because. My OTP at the moment is C/A, and I loved S6 Spuffy. While I prefer C/A fanfic to what ME hands us (gee, I wonder why) I've always liked S/B much better on the show. I'm one of the handfull of people who think that Buffy S6 is one of the best seasons. I think writing Connor out of the show is about the stupidest thing ME could do, but at least he got a great send-off. I more or less like all the characters on both shows; even Riley grew on me once he traded his superpowers for a personality. I don't care for aggressive shipping, no matter the character, and loathe character bashing, Real People Fic, and spoilers with a passion. I liked Happy Anniversary and Doublemeat Palace. I thought the AR in Seeing Red was necessary to ground the character again. At times I like to hear myself talk.

[identity profile] psychofilly.livejournal.com 2003-08-05 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, your post made me think, and I've decided that the main reason that I don't like season six is because of season seven. I think they handled Spike's redemption okay, though I was still dissapointed that he remained "all about Buffy" but it is Buffy's character development that left me cold.

If she had dealt in any meaningful way with her role in the wreck that was her and Spike's relationship and grown as a person and quit stringing Spike along and throwing him scraps to keep him by her side, then I would have been perfectly fine with where they took season six. Thing is, though Spike did, Buffy didn't seem to learn much from it.

Not argueing or anything, it's just that your post made me question exactly why I didn't like season six (over and above the "Crack-magic Willow cop-out).
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2003-08-05 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree they dropped most of their balls halfway through season 7. But that doesn't affect how I view season 6. I'd expected much more out of the B/S relationship in s7 myself, and I don't mean a happy end. Like you said, the character development left to be desired. But then, in s7 we have a general weakness in the characterization - between Joss's precious power-sharing theme and the flock of SITs, the writers just lost track of their characters (and I'm not even getting into the lame villain, the thousands of boring speeches and the lack of plot in the last dozen or so eps.)

But actually, I think Buffy was one of the few who were acting in a believable manner. I mean, yeah, her actions and decisions weren't exactly perfect or rational, and at times I found it hard to sympathize with her. But I could always see where she was coming from. She's just a 22?-year-old with a lot on her plate. My problem with s7 Buffy was that this whole alienation-arc was written so sluggishly and was ultimately too predictable (was there anyone actually shocked or surprised by the mutiny? My only thought was 'about time'). Too long build-up, too little payoff.


>(over and above the "Crack-magic Willow cop-out).
Yup, the magic/addiction metaphor was no stroke of genius, no argument there. But then, for me s6 was all about Buffy. Her storyline, and the relationship with Spike were what got me hooked.

Plus, s6 gave us OMWF :)

Sounds to me like you've got your head on straight.

[identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com 2003-08-06 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I gave up my C/A 'shipper heart last season--just didn't work in reality the way it did in Starlet's stories. However, like you, I like my characters conflicted and even messed up. Buffy's more real to me in the last few seasons than she was at the beginning of the series.

Hey, you asked if I'm doing any more stories like "Regression" or "Tara Incognita." As a matter of fact, I am--my futurefic Connor/Dawn project tentatively titled "Sins of the Father." Should be good if I can get it off the ground (OBAFU's still taking up a lot of my writing time). Hope so, anyway.
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Re: Sounds to me like you've got your head on straight.

[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2003-08-06 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've read about it in your journal, and I'm thrilled!
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Re: Sounds to me like you've got your head on straight.

[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2003-08-06 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
>Personally, I gave up my C/A 'shipper heart last season--just didn't work in reality the way it did in Starlet's stories.

But that was just crappy writing. That wasn't C/A what we saw, that was all the characters talk about C/A, and about kyerumption (blechh). They never gave it a chance.

Re: Sounds to me like you've got your head on straight.

[identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com 2003-08-07 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Regarding C/A--it wasn't even the writing that did it in for me. It was the chemistry. DB and CC work wonderfully together, but the dynamic between them just didn't lend itself to sexual tension for me. Just didn't see it. So I'm stuck with, "Great on paper, but failed to light up the screen."
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2003-08-07 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I saw it, sometimes I didn't. Waiting in the Wings - sparkling. Awakening - not so much (otherwise great ep, though). Depending on the director, maybe? I liked the little understated scenes, like Angel kissing Cordy's forehead in Magic Bullet. I would have prefered if they had gone with the UST instead of trying the romance angle, but what's done is done.