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astridv ([personal profile] astridv) wrote2005-01-07 07:32 pm

Gllb. Is there smoke coming out of my ears yet?







Must find out how to get a frame around the page, but I have about 10 minutes left to get some food... gonna crosspost to [livejournal.com profile] ats_endofdays later. Hungry.

(eta: found food. found out how to fix border.)
(eta2: oops. Forgot Angel's scars. *mental note: add manly scars later*)

[identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com 2005-01-07 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Gorgeousness. It works panel by panel and as a page. And it's funny! The very cement blocks are lovely. I'm awed by the limpid color in the first panel. Damn, that's some pretty.

This is perfect. And seeing Angel and Spike together, as God intended, sends my heart into blissful birdsong. :D

[identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com 2005-01-07 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you lettering this by hand or Quark?
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[personal profile] herself_nyc 2005-01-07 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
This is gorgeous.
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[identity profile] lakrids404.livejournal.com 2005-01-07 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Very nicely done, how long does it take to make one page with coloring and all ?.
I think I have read to much fanfic, but my eyes focused first on Spikes text and then i quickly scanned the rest of the page, and then I had brief thought that it was another body part Angel had lost (I know!, I have read to much fanific)
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-08 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
then I had brief thought that it was another body part Angel had lost (I know!, I have read to much fanific)

That would have been one hell of a sneeze.

Very nicely done, how long does it take to make one page with coloring and all ?.

Um, I calculate roughly three days per page of comic artwork: one for each pencils, inks and colour. Then you got the basic layout and lettering, but those don't take that long.

Of cours that's all just an average estimation... the colours for this last page took me at least twelve hours. Rule of thumb: it always takes longer than estimated. *groans*
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-08 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks muchly :o)
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-08 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I'm really happy with it, too. But damn, colouring that thing was a piece of work. Often when I colour it doesn't seem to progress for hours, then it suddenly *clicks* and everything is falling into place. This page took a good while to click. There's just no way to do this fast if I want to get this kind of result.

Are you lettering this by hand or Quark?

Hand. I don't even have Quark on my computer though at times I sorely miss it. Word is inadequate for typography. I'll have to go hunting on ebay.
I think even if I had Quark I'd still hand-letter. I like traditional techniques. I still learned calligraphy at art school. Nowadays the freshman start right away with Quark. I suppose that approach works as well, but calligraphy comes in handy at times, and it's fun.

For convention's sake I'll mention Heroic Proportions. In comicdom the male is, oh, hell, 9 or 10 heads high, proportionally. Trust me, this project is so good, in so many ways, that no one will ever give a toss, but if job-wise you ever consider comics (I hope in many ways you dont, because it's massively a bitch) you might hear something about heroic proportions.

Yeah, I know of these proportions. And struggle with them continually. Possibly because I'm coming from children's books where you got more like a 7-8 to 1 ration (to a six-year-old, even a teenager will look grown up). Personally I find 9-10 rather extreme though, I think that applies to US comics rather than to European which I grew up on. But I think it would still be a good idea for me to aim for that, and maybe end up in the middle at a comfortable 8 heads.


This is perfect. And seeing Angel and Spike together, as God intended, sends my heart into blissful birdsong. :D


Spike and Angel together is a thing of beauty. Snark and dislike and aggression on the outside with some hidden, unexplored and totally denied feelings on the inside... what more does a fangirl want. I know far from everyone agrees but I think getting Spike on Angel (ahem, the show) was a brilliant move.

[identity profile] whichwitch666.livejournal.com 2005-01-08 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I adore this. And I've shown it to all my friends, and they made you our queen.
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehee :o)

I wish I could finish that other page but I've been out of town yesterday, and again tomorrow while all I want to do is draw comics.

[identity profile] whichwitch666.livejournal.com 2005-01-09 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean. I've been doing nothing that had to do with my school projects all day - all I want to do is play around in fandom... I'm gonna regret this big time tomorrow, though.

And hey, did I tell you that I've actually started a comic project myself? For a fanzine we're publishing in a few months. It's all about the adventures of Xander at the Fabulous Ladies Night Club ;)

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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-11 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? That's great. Is it going to be in English? I'd love to see that when it's done.
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-11 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
btw, love your icon :oD

[identity profile] whichwitch666.livejournal.com 2005-01-11 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's going to be in Hebrew, but I very possibly will translate it to English and post it somewhere when it's done. Right now i'm having trouble liking the "art" the "artist" we found is producing... :(
Hopefully it will all turn out good.

[identity profile] whichwitch666.livejournal.com 2005-01-11 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

I recently made a blank one (mona wanted one that doesn't say WW ;) if you're interested :)
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-11 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes please :)

Actually the icon I was referring to was another one, but it was gone just when my reply posted. It was the one with Joss saying, "I got this thing" and you saying "I'm your slave"... something like that? But this one's neat as well.

It's going to be in Hebrew, but I very possibly will translate it to English and post it somewhere when it's done. Right now i'm having trouble liking the "art" the "artist" we found is producing... :(
Hopefully it will all turn out good.


Eh. The joys of teamwork? Well, I keep my fingers crossed (and yay for English translation).

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[identity profile] whichwitch666.livejournal.com 2005-01-11 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I can send you both with pleasure. Just mention me if you use them, ok? :)

Re: Teamwork - yeah. I don't actually feel that this guy is on the team. He was sort of a default, so we're stuck with him. He's just very very young and I have a hard time working with kids (which happens a lot around fandom). Example: when I said I'd like him to send me a frame - character, backgrounds and all - as an example of what he can do, and suggested a rough draft is fine at this stage (didn't want to pressure him), he actually wrote me: "fyi - I don't make drafts. I do the frame and if it's not what you wanted I'll make another." That's when I knew he is not on the mature side. I think only really young, inexperienced people (or genius artists) can afford to say they make no drafts. But whatever. Sorry I'm ranting, need to vent :)

Re: yey for translation....

Would you consider, when your amazing comic is done, letting me translate to Hebrew and posting on my site....? Eternal fame in Israel awaits you! (but totally no hard feelings if you don't want to :)
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-01-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
"fyi - I don't make drafts. I do the frame and if it's not what you wanted I'll make another."

What, ink and all? Colour, too???

That's when I knew he is not on the mature side. I think only really young, inexperienced people (or genius artists) can afford to say they make no drafts.

Or people who got way too much time on their hands. I mean, my drafts are not too rough, since it increases chances that the client will like it if it's already quite detailed... not always can people imagine the finished artwork from a rough draft. But to send a finished frame, that's... not really clever.

Would you consider, when your amazing comic is done, letting me translate to Hebrew and posting on my site....? Eternal fame in Israel awaits you! (but totally no hard feelings if you don't want to :)

Are you kidding? I'd be honoured! A translation into Hebrew, that's just so cool! It's gonna take a few months, though. Maybe I can get it finished by April, that'd be nice.

[identity profile] shadowscast.livejournal.com 2005-05-01 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's so amazingly beautiful!
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2005-05-01 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I'm glad you like it. With a bit of luck the last missing page will be finished later this month. Good thing the month has just started...