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astridv ([personal profile] astridv) wrote2006-09-30 11:31 pm
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I just came from a party where I met the friend of a friend... we’d met at the movies a couple weeks ago, she’s in fandom (not Buffy, I forget which), I gave her the link to the Smile Time comic. Then today I ask her how she liked it, and she says, yeah, she like, and by the way, three of her friends were all, "What, you know her?"

Which poses two questions.
1. How frikkin' awesome is this?
2. How many people have read this thing, if at least three people in my own town know about it? I really wish I’d installed a counter or something, now I’ll never know. Or is there actually a LJ tool that gives you a hit status of a certain post? Do they collect that sort of info?

And now, since I’m already friends locked, for a spot of bitching. I’m not in the habit of doing that... don’t think I’ve ever done that before... but this guy is just too much, and I don’t want to risk attracting an obvious troll: Mark "I'm not a misogynist but I play one on Lee Goldberg's blog" York replies to the fic defenders, once more confirming that he has the IQ of a watermelon.

Mark says:That's the biggest load of horse hockey I've ever read. That's my strong opinion but one backed up by law and universal ethics, not some wild relativistic carte blanche to pilfer original work. At its worst it's character defamation. Not all opinions are created equal. Some have a foundation in reality.
( leegoldberg.typepad.com/a_writers_life/2006/09/am_i_a_fanficce.html#comment-23161773 )

Universal Ethics, WTF? And here I thought that‘s basically an oxymoron.

Speaking of morons... other pearls of wisdom from Mr. York:
What a surprise? A woman fanfictress like Rommel. I think the "We" says it all. We women thieves sisters in arms and all. A defender of stolen crap by a writer of it. Yawn. Such blatant shillery."
"You could explain why it is that women are defending this thievery? Why is that? Is it something hard-wired that allows them to just cast aside established rules because they happen to want something?"
Jeez. Issues much? I have no idea why he’s trying to make this whole thing about gender issues since that’s a) inaccurate and b) not exactly helping his side of the debate. It’s a giant, completely useless red herring. Traditionally, if you use shifty debating techniques you do it to make the other side look bad, not your own. I’m puzzled.

*deep breath* Okay, all better now.

[eta: now he's done bashing women and has moved on:
Ey-up makes a lot of sense. That must be why she is having so much trouble with the German take on what a fan can and should be able to do.
Wow, that man is a fucking idiot.]

Also, to get back to the productive side of things, page six is almost completely coloured and page seven more than halfway inked. Maybe I’ll finish even both of that tonight.

[eta: unlocked]
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[identity profile] lakrids404.livejournal.com 2006-09-30 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You must be a BNF then, how does it feel?

Why don’t you quit Lee Goldberg's blog? I myself consider it a good thing, to read other peoples thoughts, especially when you don’t agree with them. But I have stopped following some blogs, when I felt that I got too irritated over something written. I could just taken noticed of those views and givem them so thoughts and then moved on, or post back and explain my opinion and where it disagree with the writer and argue from my point of view. But I think most people will not be convinced, that they are wrong from some semi-stranger, even when it’s elegant and intelligent debated.

Lakrids, a male fic writer
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2006-09-30 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You must be a BNF then, how does it feel?

Pretty damn cool *g*

Why don’t you quit Lee Goldberg's blog?

I've been asked that before. The thing is, even though Lee can be annoying as hell and some of his commenters are idiots, in general I find this whole topic extremely interesting and entertaining. It's not like you just get the Marks comenting; there're some insightful and well-argued comments to be found from both sides of the debate. Even Lee has his moments, when he doesn't happen to rattle on about fanfic... his journal isn't boring.

Of course, rarely ever will anyone be convinced. But the argument itself is fun, exasperating, educational, will make you bang your head against the wall... any of these things, but it's rarely dull. :)