You do find the best links. That Envy poster ... I literally LOL'd. *g*
The subtext/canon link, though ... I don't really agree. You know that I am just about the biggest Roy/Riza shipper ever. *g* But I really don't think that Roy and Riza pass my main benchmark for "Is this relationship canon?" -- i.e. if the characters appeared briefly in the background of a gen fic in an obvious relationship (kissing; being married; having kids; daydreaming about the other's eyes or lips or hair; whatever) would I still consider it gen? And with Roy and Riza, I think the answer is definitely "no". You can easily read their relationship as a romantic one. But you can also read it as the relationship of close military companions/buddies/partners. I really don't think that Roy and Riza would behave differently if you genderwapped one or the other of them, for example.
There are definitely situations in which it's pretty inarguable that there's something romantic there even when the characters themselves don't act on it -- Ronon and Jennifer, for example: they almost kiss, they discuss the possibility of a relationship a little bit in Quarantine, and he is clearly attempting to attract her attention and/or court her in a couple of episodes. It's impossible to argue that attraction between Ronon and Jennifer is not present in canon.
But the whole thing about subtext is that it's sort of in the eye of the beholder and/or the author, right? It's debatable by definition. Saying that there is obviously canon subtext between two characters, even though it's two characters that I do ship, makes my tinhat detector start pinging.
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The subtext/canon link, though ... I don't really agree. You know that I am just about the biggest Roy/Riza shipper ever. *g* But I really don't think that Roy and Riza pass my main benchmark for "Is this relationship canon?" -- i.e. if the characters appeared briefly in the background of a gen fic in an obvious relationship (kissing; being married; having kids; daydreaming about the other's eyes or lips or hair; whatever) would I still consider it gen? And with Roy and Riza, I think the answer is definitely "no". You can easily read their relationship as a romantic one. But you can also read it as the relationship of close military companions/buddies/partners. I really don't think that Roy and Riza would behave differently if you genderwapped one or the other of them, for example.
There are definitely situations in which it's pretty inarguable that there's something romantic there even when the characters themselves don't act on it -- Ronon and Jennifer, for example: they almost kiss, they discuss the possibility of a relationship a little bit in Quarantine, and he is clearly attempting to attract her attention and/or court her in a couple of episodes. It's impossible to argue that attraction between Ronon and Jennifer is not present in canon.
But the whole thing about subtext is that it's sort of in the eye of the beholder and/or the author, right? It's debatable by definition. Saying that there is obviously canon subtext between two characters, even though it's two characters that I do ship, makes my tinhat detector start pinging.